Tim's Atlanta Real Estate Blog: Countrywide's Latest Numbers Are Pretty Scary

Countrywide's Latest Numbers Are Pretty Scary

At the beginning of the year, the big scare was the subprime mortgage meltdown.  But many people downplayed that and said it was just a small piece of the market.  But Countrywide just came out with their most recent numbers and the numbers are looking pretty bad.  Delinquencies for prime home-equity loans shot up dramatically from 1.77% to 4.56%. 

The reason isn't because of interest rate increases either.  They attribute it to people losing their jobs.  This seems strange since the stock market is making new highs.  If business is really as good as the stock market might indicate, I would think that they would be hiring, not firing. 

I pasted the main parts below that I thought were the most interesting.  I haven't seen these problems in my small part of the world yet.  I hope this is just a small blip and nothing that continues to get worse.

Countrywide said 4.56 percent of its prime home-equity loanswere delinquent at the end of the quarter, up from 1.77 percent in the year-ago period. Some 23.71 percent of its subprime loans were delinquent, up from 15.33 percent.

The company said the delinquencies were not due to borrowers struggling with mortgage interest rate resets, as many had expected.

Instead, the delinquencies have been largely due to people losing their jobs or similar factors, the company said. Those homeowners have been unable to refinance because the value on their home has fallen and the credit crunch has cut off other borrowing options.

"We are experiencing home price depreciation almost like never before, with the exception of the Great Depression."

13 commentsTim Maitski "Video Agent Guy" • July 24 2007 07:52PM

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wow...I saw that their stock took a hit this morning but didn't get a chance to read more on the subject. With rates raising and guidelines tightening it may get worse before it gets better.
Posted by John Barry Seattle Washington Home Loans ( Home Loans) over 2 years ago
Hi Tim,  This is very interesting information.  Those are pretty startling numbers particularly in the area of delinquencies.  If the reason given "people loosing their jobs" only reflected the state of affairs in places like Michigan, it might make sense.  But, from what I hear, most states don't have tons of people loosing their jobs!
Posted by Lola Audu~Audu Real Estate~Grand Rapids, MI Real Estate over 2 years ago

Tim...  this is interesting. I think part of the reason to higher numbers is because more people are buying homes. I am sure that this has attributed to some of this. 

But in regards to your concerns about jobs, that the market is good, but Countrywide has said that many of the delinquencies are due to job loss. I haven't seen or heard much of this, but I know some people have lost their 2nd jobs...   or, taxes have gone up in some areas, so I can see this being a burden. Especially if pay raises don't offset this.

Lastly... have you seen Countrywide advertise their no cost loan.  I sometimes see it 3 times a day. In my opinion, when we see more advertising from mortgage companies, it means business is down a little.

jeff belonger

Posted by Jeff Belonger -- The FHA Expert.com -- FHA Loans -- FHA mortgages - USDA loans (Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) over 2 years ago

I don't like hearing about delinquencies, especially when it comes to people losing their jobs, but countrwide has quoted deals to people who have come to me and they were being charged up to 6% up front, not to mention the rates they were given 10% +   I really like your post it's very informative,as for countrwide they are still digging themselves a hole...

Tom

Posted by Thomas Weiss (Thomas R. Weiss) over 2 years ago

I thought I heard a few hedge funds underwriten by Bear Stearns have actually gone under.

it'll probably get worse before it gets better.

Posted by Orlando Homes Armando Rodriguez Real Estate & Mortgage Broker-GRI (QUEST REALTY SERVICES) over 2 years ago
Since the news related to Home Equity products, I wonder how much of it is caused by the speculation in recent years. I had several customers use equity to buy second homes. I also wonder if the Equity loans were made by people treating the home as ATM.
Posted by Jim Little, Your Sun City Arizona Realtor (Ken Meade Realty) over 2 years ago

Wow, I knew it was going to get bad, but I really didn't think it was going to get this bad this fast. The scary thing is that I don't think the market has hit bottom yet.

Posted by Melissa Kruse (Gryphon ) over 2 years ago

Tim,

Countrywide's numbers are of course worrisome. But what bothers me, like you, is that they blame people's job losses for the delinquencies. The economy is rather solid, not setting records, but steady. The feeling is that the real reason is something else, job loss is just to cover it up. Like very lenient underwriting standards. Hopefully the real story comes out soon.

Posted by Esko Kiuru - Las Vegas NV Mortgage Consultant (FHA, VA, Conventional, Refinance, Jumbo) over 2 years ago
 Unemployment is typically the culprit that drives Foreclosure rates. Contrary to the latest news reports, the rise in national foreclosure rates correlates more closely to the unemployment rate than to the type of mortgage product a homeowner has.

For example, California is ground zero for many of the country's biggest subprime lenders, including Countrywide Financial and Wells Fargo; and with 22 percent of its total mortgages considered "risky," it leads the nation in terms of lending to borrowers with flawed credit.

Even so, California's foreclosure rate for the first quarter of 2007 came in at just 0.43; while Midwestern states like Indiana, Michigan and Ohio all crossed the 1-percent threshold.

Economists attribute California's resilience to a robust economy that continues to create jobs--which in turn allows residents to remain in their homes, supports housing prices and lets homeowners use equity to refinance out of adjustable loan terms and into fixed loans.

Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and other Midwestern states, meanwhile, have been battered by the one-two punch of declining residential values and the loss of tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs following cutbacks at auto companies.

According to Mortgage Bankers Association Vice President of Public Relations Laura Armstrong;

"high foreclosures are historically linked to employment issues and regional and state economic conditions."

The, MBA issued a press release and stated the following:

"We agree that a major cause of foreclosures is local economic conditions, not the fact that loans were made to subprime borrowers.  For example, the states of Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin represent only about 14 percent of outstanding mortgages in the country but account for 28 percent of the loans in foreclosure, and subprime borrowers account for only about half of the loans in foreclosure in these states.  This region has lost over 700,000 jobs since the middle of 2000 and it is clearly problems with the economy in this region that are driving the ability of borrowers to repay their mortgages or sell their homes if they get into trouble." 

In addition, the MBA goes on to address a Congressional Joint Economic Committee (JEC) report looking at the current environment surrounding rising foreclosures among subprime loans:

"the JEC overstated the potential number of foreclosures and thus the potential impact"

"It is important to note, we believe the report overstates the potential number of foreclosures.  By relying on faulty, inflated data to draw its conclusions, the report paints a far more dire picture of the landscape than MBA's studies support.  Further, the report relies on a flawed report by the Center for Responsible Lending that issued a projection of foreclosures based on unrealistic, worst-case assumptions.  In addition, the report relies heavily on foreclosure estimates from RealtyTrac, an Internet-based firm specializing in marketing foreclosed properties.  MBA estimates that RealtyTrac overstates the number of foreclosures by around 30 percent."

Food for thought!

Posted by Mortgage U - Advisory Services and Training over 2 years ago
Tim - Interesting stuff, I haven't heard of this just yet but I can tell you dealing with the wholesale division of Countrywide has been a little piece of hell lately.  The turn times and underwriting times are ridiculously long, even on the simplest deals.  In my humble opinion, we are now faced, as an industry, with a bust of sorts that follows any boom.  There's no room to do anything other than what Economics 101 in this country follows, remain steady and consistent, if you get too high or too low, adapt accordingly.  It's tough, for sure, but God as my witness, I do believe what is going on in our industry is very good for its stability.  What's going on in our National Economy, is a Blog in of itself.
Posted by Jason Sardi, Mortgage Banker (FHA-VA-USDA-Conventional-Pennsylvania Loans) over 2 years ago

Great comments. 

Tony, that's a very interesting chart. It really tells the story well.

Posted by Tim Maitski "Video Agent Guy" (HomeAtlanta.com) over 2 years ago
Great post!  I've watched a lot of the news on this story today, it is more sobering when the numbers are broken down. When you consider that Countrywide is the largest mortgage company in the country.  The CEO was quoted today as saying that forget about a recovery in 2008, it will be more like 2009 before recovery starts.  Those are very strong words!  Countrywide real after tax dollar loss was closer to 50%.  That is what spooked the market today.  Unfortunately for those of us that work this full time we need to fasten our seat-belts.
Posted by Jim Crawford ~ Atlanta Real Estate-ABR E-PRO (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta) over 2 years ago

Is it possible that maybe there isn't a loss of jobs, but rather a low income potential for people trying to keep their homes? In my market, most people do not have incomes anywhere near what is needed to make their payments after the inital year when the taxes and insurance rise. Income levels have not progressed upward in the way that expenses have. This is a robust economy? More than 50% live day to day on their credit cards and cannot afford healthcare. I think not.

As for the data, it is possibly flawed, especially if using Realty trac since they do not update as frequently as they could. However, there is no mistaking the huge amount of foreclosures going on in the local areas, just by reading the local papers. I think there are a multitude of reasons, including loans given to unqualified people.   It was just a matter of time for Countrywide to feel the aftereffects. Thanks for this post. Interesting.

Posted by Karen Hurst ~ Principal Broker ~ Warwick ~ Rhode Island (Stonehurst Realty) over 2 years ago

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